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Richard Scott Johnson
over 6 months ago

Potential Employers & Recruiters Requesting Personal Information Way Too Soon

When searching for jobs, during the application phase, even before being contacted for an interview, I have had potential employers and recruiters request personal information such as my full Social Security number, my full birth date, my home address and other personal information. Over the past several years this is happening a lot more frequently with recruiters and human resource departments requesting this information and often times, a web page for applying for a job requesting this information. I politely decline because I refuse to give out this information when the employer has no right to this information until you are actually hired. I get mixed reactions from the employers and recruiters, from surprise to telling me that they cannot move forward with my application without the information. Is this happening to anyone else? How do you handle this situation?

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Amy J. Jones
over 6 months ago

Amy J.Jones./ very frustrated

To begin. I am sorry if I seem irritated, .... but I am. I know that progress is necessary in the 21st century, but i wish recruiters did not use software to send employment opportunities. Buzz words and phrases match the qualifications from a resume to job/career opportunities. Rarely does a recruiter READ the resume until later. I know it is they only way to "service" job listing clients with reasonable candidates..... BUT.... I clearly do not want to sell/market insurance regardless of the variety, nor do I want to drive a truck. My resume indicates many years of sales as well as previously owning my own business. The buzz words are: sales, sole proprietorship. co-owner, etc.... what is in my inbox daily? Wanted: CDL drivers, insurance agents wanted, telemarket positions....... I am not licensed for insurance sales, nor do I have a CDL..... And, I do not desire to get them; I have a MBA, and I have GSL debt for God's sake..... Why do recruiters think I have extra cash laying around for pre-licensing instruction as well as the licenses themselves????

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Jennifer Franklin
over 6 months ago

Looking for a recruiter

Does anyone have any leads on recruiters? Looking for a recruiter who specializes in relocation, I am looking to relocate to Northern California.

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Jim Flack
over 6 months ago

Are You Seeing This?

I don't know if employers have released their collective breath since the election, but I am really seeing an up-tick in open positions that match my skill set. I see them on CL.com, other job web sites, etc. I've been applying to a lot of new opportunities and the phone is starting to ring. A lot. I hope everyone else is noticing the same.

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Ted Francis
over 6 months ago

Headhunter or Recruiter?

I’m thinking about using a 3rd party to help me match up with jobs that meet my career goals and salary requirements. What’s the difference between a headhunter and a recruiter? My financial resources are limited right now so affordability without sacrificing quality service is key. Any ideas?

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over 6 months ago

Do People Actually Get Jobs Through Recruiters?

Honestly, I'm starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football! A week ago I got an email from a recruiter who was from out of state recruiting for one of our big companies here. I told him that I don't work with recruiters who aren't in my home state, but apparently (according to him) they've placed jobseekers with this company. (The company is nationwide, but headquartered here.) So I send him my resume, and I had to sign off on what he was submitting. He only put my last two years, all bundled as contract work, and none of my earlier work. When I asked him why, he said his boss told him to do it that way because I had so many contract jobs that were short term with too much time inbetween.

It's been a week today, and I haven't heard anything from this recruiter, and this isn't the only one that has ghosted me. There was one who sent me on one interview (I didn't get the job), and I haven't heard back from him. I called to follow up once a week and also to see what his client said and..... Crickets. Based on an article I read in LinkedIn, this week I'm starting to respond to recruiter emails with the position I'm looking for, that I only work with in-state recruting firms that service my area in a certain radius, and that I won't tell you what my last salary was nor will I send you my W2's. So get this: I got THREE emails from a recruting firm for the same position from three different people with a position that wasn't a fit!

So I ask you, are recruiters just a sham, because that's what I'm beginning to think.

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Robert Stevens
over 6 months ago

Re: Advice Provided Job Seekers

I've received and read advice from several recruiters, professional job counselors and HR Consultants.

While I appreciate their sincere advice AND recognize their advice is based on the current hiring practices. These practices are baffling and appear most inefficient. I'll make several points to which I'd invite constructive criticism, illumination or plain correction.

Keyword: I've learned most organizations use the Applicant Tracking System (ATS) to screen applications for position to be filled. I'm told review the job description and ensure you have keywords in your resume. Is there a clue to what the key words should be? Does not the hiring agency build this blueprint outlining what ATS should look for?

Copy, Cut & Paste: I've been told to ensure your resume gets selected, be sure you have phrases from the job description in your resume. I view this as an integrity issue. I do not want to mislead a hiring manager with extracted phrases from the job description that I've not performed, but am capable of performing. I opine, this process is most inept!

Also, if I am switching to a new field, why would my resume have phrases from the job description? Should not my previous accomplishments highlight my abilities and the competencies that will benefit the organization? Seems like company recruiters seek cookie cutter new employees or people who may have worked in a specific position related to the position they seek to fill. Also appears most organizations are lean and do not have an effective internal training program. Are my expectations antiquated?

Branding: Develop your brand. What is your brand? Seems like "brand" is more important today than critical thinking skills. Seems like emphasis is more on the latest keyword than ability to deliver results.

Networking: Find someone at the company you can connect with via alumni or some other connection and ask them to sponsor you with HR. Has this worked for anyone? This is like cold contacting & cold contacting today is not like years past.

Does recruitment for our current workforce not value competencies like: Action Oriented; Demonstrated Business Acumen; Superb Decision Quality; Experience directing others; Capable of Managing Diversity; Expert Problem Solver; Astute Planner; Strategically Agile; Intellectual Horsepower; Innovation; Six Sigma; Potential; Excellent Process Manager; Cross Functional Team Contributor; Effective Leader; Thought Leader...you get the point. Seems like these are not focus items for the ATS.

Stands to reason without highlighting these type skills for hiring, a successful succession plan is not a priority and recruitment and retention of competing talent becomes increasingly more difficult for a company's long range human capital planning.

Another point: Federal Government loves to highlight jobs created per quarter. I believe they are reporting the wrong metric - they should be reporting how many people got hired into those created jobs. And where are these jobs? Who are the companies?

It is disheartening to continuously read and hear metrics being reported that
do not affect real change to improve the quality of life for Americans.

I make this post knowing there are varying opinions shaped by different experiences. My objective is to listen, learn and hear if others believe similarly.

Look forward to your comments/opinions.

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Kim LaGow
over 6 months ago

Feel like the falcons in 4th quarter

I applied for a position and was called by the recruiter of the company. I thought we really hit it off and she told me that out of 150 applicants I had been rated by the hiring team as having the best resume and most industry experience. I had mentioned that I had bern considering chsnging to a different industry. She then said, "no, we're not going to let you do that", She then scheduled a phone interview with the hiring manager for top 5 applicants and she would choose for 3 to come in and interview with 4 different people. I had the phone interview and was called back for the face to face interview. I got to choose when I wanted to come in of the available times because I was "still # 1. I chose the fitst appt. I thought I had great interviews. They all went over the allotted times. I sent a thsnk you note to all. I didn't get the job. I asked for feedback so that I could hopefully improve. The recruiter said she hadn't gotten feedback but that she would and get back to me. She never has. I feel kind of mistreated. Like I was ahead through the 3rd quarter and then git blindsided. Any advice or opinions?

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Nicky Bailey
over 6 months ago

Advice

I plan on working with staffing agencies since my restaurant position was eliminated over a language barrier related misunderstanding. Any advice on how to address then when I meet with recruiters at local staffing agencies in the central coast?

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Erika Palafox
over 6 months ago

Unable to find a job within my Career Path! Help-Advice!

As a middle aged single mother of two girls, I am unable to get a job within my career path. I started off as an administrative assistant and worked my way to an executive assistant but am unable to move into Human Resources. I was told that I needed a Bachelors degree in order to be considered for any Human Resource position, so I went back to college, started taking online night classes and am on my third year towards a degree in Human Resources Manangement. Most of my administive positions involved tasks within Human Resources, which built my skills and experience.

I have applied to several positions and only get to the third phase of the interview process. All of the positions I've applied for are stepping stone positions which are entry level positions. These positions involve the typical filing, new hire documents and orientation, scheduling and event planning. I am very well experienced with these tasks and many more within Human Resources and yet I am not considered for any positions!

The Bay Area is one of the toughest and most competitive job markets! The minute they see me in person I am not considered because I am not the hip young type all these companies seem to be looking for. They use large elaborate vocabulary in the interviewing process and expect the same out of me. I am not used to speaking so eloquently and this may be my downfall. Or my downfall is my interviewing skills, I'm always nervous and stumble on my words.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I don't know what else to do. I don't want to give up or feel so horrible, I am honestly feeling like I have failed myself and that isn't who I am. I am a very positive person who is always encouraging and motivating others. But, today I feel defeated.

#NeedAdvice #Hr #careerchange #HumanResources #Recruiters #CareerCoach

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