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Michael Drasser
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PTSD after being let go

So I’m on this job board for the last 2 1/2 months, reading the advice of many people and providing my own. Lessons I’ve learned over the years and using those lessons to keep moving forward. Reading other peoples advice and reading my own after posting gives me strength and courage to face what’s ahead, I hope all of you that do the same it does provide some kind of benefit. For as stronger and wiser i have become over the years, it’s natural to experience emotional flare ups after a traumatic event.

I was with the company for 12 years. When I first started, I was nervous and laser like focus to do well and work hard. Over time, I got to know a lot of people and received many accolades for my hard work and dedication, which even provided me to promotions within a short time frame. Senior leader ship, executive leader ship, everyone up and down the line got to know who I am and respected me very much. It felt fantastic to have these friendships and I always walked around with a smile I’m always trying to help people. The workload was intense, there are many times over the years that complain to my wife about it but I always push through and I got it done, no matter what the cost. At that time I used to take my work home with me, opening my laptop at the dinner table and continuing to respond to emails, working over the weekend and working while I was away and vacation. I became a workaholic. I became so wrapped up in my career, that I let it consume my life. I’m grateful that I have been able to spend some time with my wife and children, but looking back I wish I could’ve spent more with them.

Management changed three times of the 12 years, and each time it changed expectations changed, but one thing that was consistent was employee burn out. It’s just way too much for the size Steph we have on the teams. Everyone was stretched pen and pulled in 16 different directions constantly. They were people that were miserable and stayed, some left, even some got sick and had to go on disability. Noticing lack of support from leadership, little to no training from my positions and for the new text coming in, I started to burn out as well. I tried desperately to change my way of thinking, I started taking more and more vacation time hoping this would work. I stopped working at home and I stopped working on vacation. I still worked late nights, but over time I started leaving earlier and earlier. I knew I wanted to leave the company, but I was afraid to as I was making a good salary, I was promoted twice, I knew so many people and the locations of the departments, it was all very comfortable.

In third wave of management, they made a lot of changes and several people were let go. I happened to notice it was people that were older, in their positions for a long time or in the company for a long time, making a very good salary, etc. you know where I’m going with this. I realized from late last year that my head was going on the chopping block next. I should have started looking for something much sooner and harder, but I didn’t. I casually started looking at jobs outside of my work, over the years I even applied to eight or nine positions over a span of a few years within my company, but nothing panned out and I got no help from my management or HR. In the first six months of this year, I was triple teamed and they played all kind of psychological games with me, my director lying right to my face and making up stories, they were slowly emotionally and psychologically beating me down to the point where I couldn’t function anymore. In June, my career was terminated with this company.

I was very fortunate to find you a job within 30 days, it was a consultant and it took me a while to adjust. It was a polar opposite of my last job, it was so slow I was bored out of my mind. The dress code was so laid-back I found it unprofessional. I had to make up my own work and wanted to stay busy. It was so quiet, I’m not exaggerating I could literally hear the seconds hand moving on the wall clock. In the meantime, I have gone to a job fair two weeks before I was terminated, with a company that I was working with while at my last company. I spoke to the VP said he was going to look into getting a position approved for me that was being created. Once again I was very fortunate and was provided a job offer with this company for the same position. As in waited as I should’ve been, they offered me a salary much less than I expected. I wanted to walk away right then and there and discussed and disappointment. I had applied to a little over 50 companies with some responses, if you were phone interviews and less than a handful of second interview opportunities. I had nothing else to fall back on, the consultant position wasn’t going full time anytime soon and I didn’t know when it will end. I felt like I had no choice but to except it.

I am now with this company two weeks, they are training me and have provided me a lot of overtime. VP called me to his office for follow-up and told me he didn’t want me to feel overwhelmed and take them to log on me, but it was only to show me an overview of how they do in business. He explained everything else would come slowly and they would probably give me more responsibility over time. Although I felt better after talking to him, I can’t help but think why did he say this to me? Did I look overwhelmed concerned? Are they deathly afraid of losing me and need to fill this role desperately?

Over the last 2 1/2 to 3 months, I have felt like I’ve been floating in June, anxiety levels rising and falling, going through a mixed bag of emotions including rage, anger, frustration, sadness, depression, fear and trying to stay positive this entire time. I truly feel like I’m going through post dramatic stress disorder. Maybe I’m not realizing how huge this is, maybe my brain is making it huge. Approaching 50, my wife and my therapist both said as you get older, you do become more aware of things and have a heightened sensitivity. Things like this wouldn’t have bothered me when I was younger. As I spend more time with this company, I am slowly starting to feel better. There are times when I’m perfectly fine and I feel very confident, there are the times where I am fearful and worried and feel like I’m floating in the dream, afraid of getting fired again, afraid of getting burnt out, afraid if I’m going to like this company and its people. I feel like a nervous little mouse and that is not my character.

I am very thankfulfind work so quickly after this happened, but I feel like I didn’t give myself a chance to take off some time and just relax. There are days that I don’t want to work, I don’t want to do anything except sleep and lounge around in my sweatpants. But then I feel financial pressures of having to pay bills. My wife is an extremely understanding person and does not drive expectations like that, she is very understanding and is being very supportive.

I would please like to hear from each of you your experiences and if you can relate, as well as your advice which I’m always willing to listen to. I apologize for the very long winded post, however it is therapeutic, it’s full transparency so you can know what goes on in another person‘s head and I am being very open with all of you. I know that all of us have our crosses to bear, and I will continue to be as supportive as I can for each of you. God bless.

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Patrick Coppedge
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Hello Michael Drasser,

I have the greatest amount of respect for your dedication and work ethics. You showed many different aspects of yourself in reading your experiences throughout your career. You were driven, ambitious, hard working, loyal, adaptable, focused, self sacrificing and determined.

I can understand many of the feelings and experiences that you have. In my early twenties I had gotten a job with a rapidly growing corporation. During my tenure with the company they had expanded to become the largest company in the world in their area of specialty, with over 4000 retail locations throughout the U.S. operating under 6 different brands depending on the region of the country. The parent company kept on growing, buying out one chain after another and integrating it into its own network of stores. The privately owned corporation eventually became a public corporation listing on the NYSE. All of this in the span of 8 years. I was part of it all. I had started employment at their corporate office as a clerk and through hard work and dedication, enjoyed one promotion after another.I had literally moved from a cubicle on the first floor all the way up to the executive offices on the fourth floor, quadrupling my pay and shared in on the bonuses at the end of the year(that's our Easter egg as you'd understand). I started as an hourly employee and grew into a salary position. I was on top of the world. It changed my whole life. I got rid of my old Japanese car for a gorgeous European Sedan. I went from having lunch at McDonalds to an exclusive Gabriel's Fine dining establishment on the top of the 3rd tallest high rise in my city. I was having lunch where the Mayor, the Governor, industry moguls, top executives and the elite could be found enjoying the view, service, other famous and influential people, and the incredible cuisine, food fit for the Gods.

Then it all came tumbling down faster than an avalanche, swallowing up everything in its path. The company was in deep trouble with the SEC. Several senior executive members were charged with serious financial crimes(publishing false profit reports, hiding debt, you know cooking the books as they called it). Finger pointing, blame assigning, responsibly shifting and chaos ran into every cubicle and office as everyone was fearful of losing their job. Layoffs came in waves, each taking hundreds then thousands. The could-do-no wrong corporation came apart in a matter of 2 years and its holdings bought by a competitor back east. The corporate office dismantled and sat empty and void of human activity for years to come. It was over.

So Michael, I'm sure you can relate as I had told the story from the other side. But on the dark side of the moon, I was experiencing much of the same doubt, insecurities, hopelessness, betrayal, mislead, used, lied to, sacrificed for nothing and lost of purpose that you were left feeling. Of course.depression, apathy and a whole gamut of physical and mental illnesses that stay with you for years would eventually surface. I did not mention that I got married and divorced during those 8 years.

You as I learned many valuable lessons from our experiences. Work is important, but should not be at the cost of your life and family. Keep your balance between your work and your life. Are you enjoying time with your family. Your parents, brothers, sisters, wife and her family, your children and so on. The years go by fast as you know, people age and won't be around forever. Your children will grow up and have their own lives. Your parents won't be there anymore, before you know it.

Perhaps we cannot change what has already happened, but you can still make the most of what you still have. Your company won't be there when you grow old. You family will be there if you build upon the love that binds you together. Take time to enjoy the fruitage of your hard work. Take that vacation as an opportunity to evaluate your life and personal/family priorities. Take walks with your wife, fall in love with her all over again, call your children and let them know how much you love them, have the family unite and enjoy each other's company. Play with the grand kids. You get the picture.

As for work, perhaps it's time we learn to work smarter as supposed to harder. Your age and experience have qualified you to do so. Start planning a simpler and happier, healthier and more fulfilled existence. You know how to work. Do you know how to live?

There is one more important thing. As we get older, faith and the comfort that it brings makes more sense to us. Faith is not religion, although you can practice it through religion if you'd like. The faith I'm referring to is from within you. Spend a little bit of your time to explore it and see where it may lead you. Find the comfort that it can bring and the hope that will sustain you through life's trials. And love you can aquire from it. Love for yourself, your family, your fellow man, your life. And if you dare, love for your God.

I wish you the greatest joy, health, happiness, hope and professional success for you Michael Drasser and for your family. And may God bless all of you.

Warm Regards,

Patrick Coppedge

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Matt Bornhorst
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Hi Michael Drasser - wow, thank you for sharing your story with us. I agree that it is very therapeutic to let it all out, and I do believe that knowing the full story can help us give better advice.

Your story of being with a company for many years, only for management to continuously change and eventually start laying off employees who they deem "too expensive" to keep on rings very true. I have heard of this happening not only from members in the community, but also from my own family.

I think it's great that you found a consulting gig so soon, and that you quickly found a full time job. It seems like you are carrying over a fear of being fired into this new job from being fired at your old one. Working at the same place for 12 years can really get you into a rhythm, and when that was interrupted and changed, it sounds like it threw you off.

Once you have spent a little more time in the job and have made some relationships with your coworkers I think that you will feel much better in the role.

In terms of feeling like you did not give yourself sufficient time to relax and unwind - do your best not to overwork yourself like you did before. I know it can be stressful, since you are new to the company and want to be known as a hard worker, but overworking will just make it worse. If you try and maintain the balance between a worklife and a regular life, you should feel a bit better.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with the Jobcase community. I hope to see everyone els's replies to this conversation. I think that Patrick Coppedge and Anthony Harrington might be be to offer some great advice about this.

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