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Lorenzo Glover
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Temp to Perm Job Negotiation

My manager expressed interest in keeping me on after the holidays. I was originally hired as a part-time temporary seasonal worker and since then I’ve been given more hours (40+), more responsibilities, and I actually like the job. I told her that I’m very interested staying on permanently. I really think I can make a career here if I continue to work hard and smart but I could use a little bit more money if I go permanent. The pay right now is just over minimum wage $10.50 per hour. I’m thinking about asking for $12 per hour. Never asked for more money before so I need some advice how I can get at least 12 bucks without management to loose interest?

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Linda Atkinson
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Office Specialist at Reedsmith

Hi Lorenzo, it is possible you may not have to even asked at all. Usually when moving from temp to permanent in many instances you will start with a higher salary especially if they like you and want to keep you on. This recently happen to my sister whereas she was temping in various departments for one company, when an opening came about they recommended that she apply, she was already well liked. She did, was offered the job for way more than what she anticipated and was making, so you just never know wait until the offer is on the table. Good Luck.

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Merrill Fugal
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From my experience, they have set wages per level. I am going through a similar situation. But I bring a ton of experience to the table. They only need to train me on their policies and a few other memorization things I've already gotten down. They don't need to do much other than update me on products and policies. They still want to pay me the same as a temp but increase my hours. Not by much. I like the idea but I'm worth about double what they want to pay. For now I'd suggest taking the position and requesting more, but be tactful on negotiating. Most companies I've worked for just stick you where they want you. They let you talk but hear nothing. Get it all on paper for sure. It's their way or no way. It's a step up if you take the job either way. Looks good on your resume and in your work history. Simply put, you might have to be patient and work your way to $12.00. Or, get reassigned to a higher paying job. I know I can get more. I just like the people I work with.

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Daniel Raczak
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Always use the words, 'Would you CONSIDER $12.00/hour", That way you are Not backing them into a corner.

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Jim Laughner
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Ask what you can look forward to in the near future. Let it be known that you like the job and would like to stay with them without finding a part time job on the side to help make ends meet. Things are tight for many people right now and they know that. They have probably dealt with many short time employees who could meet the minimum requirements of the job. If they're interested in making you a full time permanent employee, they obviously see that you exceed the minimum requirements. If they want to keep you they'll make you an offer that reflects their desire. If they think you'll be looking elsewhere for more money on the side they should also expect that you would accept a better paying full time job. If they want to keep you they'll offer you something that shouldn't be a burden on you, they don't want you to be tired from working too many hours so they'll try to meet your needs, (as long as your "needs / demands" aren't unrealistic), and these days $12.00 / hour is not unrealistic. Don't be too demanding but let them know that you need something to look forward to to keep you from looking elsewhere. They know as well as you do that you could do other jobs and adapt to whatever you find as easily as you found and adapted to their job. Don't expect them to bend over backwards to meet your demands, but they should be honest and tell you what you can expect in the near future, if that's not enough, let them know that you'll take it but that you can't promise to not continue looking elsewhere. Don't forget that a benefits package is a bargaining chip too. Insurance is a big part of that, a retirement plan can be a wonderful perk as well. If they offer to match your contribution up to a certain percentage, maybe (3%), that can add up to a significant amount. If they can only offer $11.50 / hour but match your contribution to a 401K or similar program and your contribution is pre-tax, that's like free money. You invest 3% of your pay and they match that 3% you're doubling your investment before you get any interest or dividends. It may sound counter intuitive at the moment because you want more money right now and in order to take advantage of such an offer you would have to take home 3% less, but in the long run, when it's time to retire you'll have money waiting for you that you wouldn't have otherwise had, and you'll start collecting it after you've quit working. I started working at a place that had a profit sharing program and I thought it was great. Just after I started they halted the profit sharing and replaced it with a retirement fund. I was disappointed because instead of getting extra money quarterly I'd have to divert some of my pay weekly and have less cash on payday. I accepted the idea though and when overtime was available and looked like a sure thing in the foreseeable future I increased my contribution to 10%. With the employer's matching contribution that was 13% of my pay being invested into an account that would grow along with the investments of the financial institution managing the account. Now, seventeen years later as I'm retiring I'm really appreciating that retirement account as opposed to the profit sharing money that I would have spent as soon as I got it. Look at all aspects of the total compensation package. If they offer enough for you to survive and add something that will help you in the future, give it serious consideration. If what they offer is not enough for you to meet your monthly obligations you need to negotiate a little bit more, maybe see if you can modify your insurance or retirement plans to put more money in your pocket immediately with an option to modify again in the future to be more beneficial in the future. (The only insurance option I had was "take it or leave it" but I could modify the contribution to my retirement account whenever I wanted to). What I'm trying to say is that an overall compensation and benefits package is the big picture, but make sure you can survive until you can reap the full potential of the benefits offered. Don't pass an offer because the short term doesn't give you lots of pocket change, look at the long term to see if it's going to be in your best interest.

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Larry Tyus
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Resident Monitor at The Brady Center

Look lay low and accept what you are getting and pray and let God do the rest. If, you are good then they will see it for themselves.

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Robin Baun
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Director Corporate Functions Healthcare at Variant Partners

There's a possibility you'll get $12/hr when you get a permanent offer. DO NOT ask other permanent employees what they make! In many companies that's a violation that can get you fired. If you get an offer that's not $12/hr you have 3 options:

  1. Reject the offer & move on
  2. Accept the offer
  3. Tell them that whatever they offered is tough for you financially and ask if there's a raise at a pre-determined point in time (3 months, 6 months are typical).

If #3 happens and you get a promise of a raise, let them know you're going to prove that you're worth it & take the job. If they're giving you an offer letter make sure that part is in writing.

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Vincent Ward
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Just ask. You don't have to make it sound like an ultimatum. That way they can give you some idea of their raise policies.

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Tim Carson
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$15 per hour minimum.

I see a lot of this same thing. Heck I made more than that 25 years ago!

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Emily Grandon
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Don’t bring up more money until you know for sure the job offer is on the table.

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Phillip Gonzalez
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Lorenzo, You already know they’re interested in hiring you so that’s a great thing. Find out how much that position pays internal employees first to verify if there's a realistic opportunity for $12 per hour.

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