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Mosier Belton

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It's my opinion that employers would rather employ younger workers, however if they give you a chance to work, it's your responsibility to prove yourself. You will need to produce or improve, or your job will be passed on to someone who can do the job.

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Mariah Bliss

Good point, Mosier! Thanks for sharing this with the community!

JOE GENOVESE

You gotta be kidding ? You just coming to that conclusion ? Forty years in multi million dollar sales and management , corporate trainer and at 50 was a dinosaur at over 65 a relic !! The sad part is those that have the ability to benefit of hiring seniors or for that matter anyone over 50 simply don't get it !! The law is full is unmitigated horse ---t !!

Larry Tyus

Yes, she has a good point, but at the other end of the tunnel they have a higher than normal turnover ratio.

Delva Jackson

First it is against the law to hire anyone based on age, religion, creed or color, it's called discrimination. Second if employers overlook qualities such as,experience, wisdom, work ethics, shame on them. Finally anyone who is hired should have to prove themselves, to suggest that one group has more to prove than another is ludicrous. Have a nice day.

Warren Rinehart

Try telling that to walmart

Paula Toole

Amen , im with you they may need to get a lawyer for that one everyone deserves to work if they so choose to

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A fellow Jobcaser

...Yes---it'sa Ludricrous...but nothin' we can do about it.....I have NO problem showing up to work Early, stay Late, and run circles around de youngsters---All de day long....actually, have a whole lotta Fun doin' it !!!....Hey, when's the last time ya get to go Back in Time---and change history??...I screwed up PLENTY bein' a whippersnapper---now , Finally in muh 50's---I Get it.....heppy New Yar, Delva, and to all yur loved ones...and to Everyone Else...a safe & enjoyable celebration...Let Us wish fer Jesus to return, as well......as fast as possible....

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Exactly Delva

Mary Roberts

Good point,I'm 52,and have been a stay at home Mom.Have a back ground in sales from home.Just because we're older doesn't mean we don't have any thing to give.I enjoy working with people,and hope to be working soon!
Thanks for the input.

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Delva, it may be illegal but, I've been looking for a job for over two years now. I've sent out I can't count the number of resumes I sent to employers. I'm 57 and disabled with RA. Although I haven't told anyone that yet. I desperately need a job. Any suggestions?

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You will not know the reason you were not hired 99.9% of the time. Especially if the decision is illegal.

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How old are You? If your under 55 Your opinion is mute!!

Paul LaRue

Then the law is being IGNORED, on a massive scale. Here's a thought: why you think that every job app in the universe asks for the year you graduated high school or college? Simple: because they can do the math! I graduated from college in 1987; do you really think its all that hard to subtract 20, 21, 22 years from that number to find out my year of birth? Then figure out my current age? Employers pull that one all the time, and while I agree that it IS a shame, that doesn't seem to prevent it from happening.
TBPH, in some ways I actually am glad this happens: anyone who would diss me because I'm too old or too male or too pale or too ANYTHING is not someone I want to work for in the first place. And may you have a lovely day yourself, and Happy New Year

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A fellow Jobcaser

.....Kandy, I believe de ' word ' you want to use is MOOT....silly darlin'....

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You're right, it IS illegal, but it happens everyday. Sure, they won't come right out and say its because you're old, of a different ethnicity, gay or Methodist, but really, they don't have to give a reason why anyway. I've been unemployed for awhile now and I'm dealing with this very issue. There's a diner right acrossbtye street from my house looking for a waitress (not a waiter or server). Its a small, family owned business in a very small town in the south. The owner does not believe a man could or should be waiting tables, regardless of the fact that I have quite a bit of experience.

Mary Roberts

So true,not all employers think like that.We have a lot to offer too!what about people that work the same job for years,and retire.I find that older people can have a lot to offer.and it's just not right.

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Right on Sister!!!

Shelia Fedrick

Mary Roberts, you can be a flight attendant. We would love to have you.

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It's only illegal if you can prove that the reason that a person was hired was based solely on their age, religion, creed, color, etc. And, in some instances, Title IX leads to the whole 'quota' notion, that people are hired particularly for these reasons to prove that the company is diverse. Exactly how often this happens, I don't have the data, but, it is an interesting note that sometimes the unintended consequence of a law intended not to lead to discrimination, actually can.

But in any such cases, you have to actually prove that there was discrimination in the process. No company is flat out going to tell a candidate that it was because of their age. Thus why they word their emails carefully when responding back that are general, like saying they went with someone that was a better fit, or they have selected a candidate, and then offer to keep your resume and application on the record for a certain amount of time - generally for as long as they are legally required to.

We can make all the plattitudes on what people deserve or not, but it doesn't change the fact that, if unemployed, you're still looking for a job. No company is held at gun point and told they must hire you, so you have to prove why they must hire you. It is rarely, if ever, a labor in demand type of job market, with employees coming in droves to hire people. It is generally, and almost always the other way around, where there are lots of people looking for jobs, and employers having to filter through all the candidates to find the people they would like to hire. You can demand people hire you all you want, and go around picketing in the streets for people to hire you, but, chances are, you're just going to be standing around in the streets with a picket sign and no where close to getting a job, especially if you're full time protester and put no time into looking for work.

Frank Odom

A privately owned company should have the right to hire and fire for any reason. It's THEIR business. If you don't like it, find somewhere that you do fit. Or start your own business of a product people want need and desire. Capitalism.

Laqwenta Berry

You is very right I was saying this to my niece's and nephews !!!! I truly respect what you saying

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We all know that, the point of the post was made very clear... produce/improve or move on, it all boils down to production and no one said they have to hire you just because you applied, there is no law that says that. Employers would rather younger and faster people. For example factory work... a slow employee would slow down production and have orders backed up. That's why these factories are weeding out and retiring the older employees, it's nothing personal. Me personally I wouldn't apply or try to hang in there if I couldn't, it's not fair to the company and it's not fair to oneself.

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I agree with you

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Against the law and unethical are separated by a very thin line! Yes, everyone should have the opportunity to prove themselves, but one must procure the position first!

Colleen Scalley

Does not mean this is not happening!

Elizabeth Russo

Apparently you've been in one company or one position for quite some time. The market place has definitely changed and not for the better. Ageism is alive and well. Discrimination doesn't matter, as it need be proved by the victim and companies know how to cover their tracks and have more legal resources than your typical layperson. And, politics & nepotism are hotter than ever. Thus, I have much compassion for those handling the job market--because the laws matter very little...

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Just because it's against the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen. There are myriad ways to to disguise discrimination that are used every day.

Daniel Hunker

I don't think they really care too much about abiding by the law. They just don't want to hire seniors

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Actually some jobs can hire based on religion. Religious colleges can hire based on religious beliefs.

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While i absolutely agree with what you have said there r soooo many ways and other excuses to use to get around being called out for discrimination OF ANY KIND.. I dont really understand what everyone is talking about...im 48 and do not now or have not ever had a problem getting a job weather it was something i was expierenced at or new to. Maybe because i never really needed a job to feed my kids or pay the rent not boasting or bragging...im just wondering if maybe the fact that i didnt need it was somehow playing a role in how i presented myself as opposed to someone who was...for lack of a better word desparate to provide for dependents...idk...just a thought. Maybe its just what is being portrayed by the older candidates that maybe they themselves feel less capable or feel like thats how they are being seen by the employer and that is somehow playing itself out in a way that makes them seem insecure and less confident than the younger candidates they r compete with and EVERYONE knows that self confidence is A HUGE PART OF SELLING YOURSELF TO ANY PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYER... does that make sense to anyone????

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Delva, you are correct in your post, however, it still happens!

Mary Roberts

My opinion...what comes around goes around,If employers treat others as though there not important,or have nothing to give,based on there age I think it's wrong.Im a believer in God,and he has our back,and yes we go out and earn the money,but money comes from him.he is our true source.It just bugs me to no end how We are treated because of age.Im 52,trying to go back to work.have been working from home,raiseing my kids.come on people, extend some kindness.any one can lose a job.even the most qualified person.

Rodney Howard

You have got to be kidding. There isn't a group out there that does not have something to prove. If you are young you have to prove you have a work ethic and deserve to be taken seriously. If you are old you have to prove you still have the energy and the ability to relate to millennials. That doesn't even get into racial stereotypes that people still have. If you are looking for a job you have something to prove..

morrell Deane

I'm good work in Warehouse Associates

Sekithia Wilder

I find this with every job interview I have been to so sad. I have been looking for a job for a long while. Frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richard Stanley

Check out goodwill.org, they put people to work.

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It's so true Mosier, I always have to prove myself it's hard work proving yourself. That's why I believe we should be able to collect social security benefits at 60. Out with the old in with the new.

Rebecca Rallet Johnson

I have run circles around everyone!!! I have had jobs that I did a multitude of things only to see someone come after me who can't handle it and it has got me no where!!!!!!!

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Social Security should start @ 50 when AARP benefits start!!!!!

Terence Woolridge

what type of job is this

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I have been working in the moving buessiness for 27years and I pick up boxes and move furtuire and help guys load up 18wheelers and carring boxes so don't judge people because of there age I am a good worker and I have work with younger people and they quite because the work was hard

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A fellow Jobcaser

...being Blessed with a strong Work Ethic is better than gold & silver....

Paula Toole

As you get older you shouldn't move furniture , you are im assuming a female ? the law requires a female to lift nothing over 50,lbs, . So if you lift more than that your only going to hurt yourself later on in your life. to prove yoyrself as a good worker you do not need to load or unload trucks , to this day I still believe there are some jobs that only a man needs to do . but that is only my thought.

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I thought women's rights was all about women proving they can do the same as a man. But then you say that the law is discriminating and saying women can't lift more than 50 lbs? This may be why both old hippies an young SJWs alike are not getting hired - both may appear to be a likely lawsuit liability from the get go, especially if they come into an interview and state, The law says... as their argument for everything. Coming into an interview with a chip on your shoulder, or otherwise holding an attitude of entitlement, is likely going to lead an employee to look elsewhere.

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Paula!?!? What are you talking about?? I used to load and unload trucks and i say more power to you.

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A fellow Jobcaser

That may be true in spite of the fact it is against several Federal laws. If so they better be very, very good at hiding their intentions and practices.

Tony Duran

EXACTLY right....there is age discrimination, just be thankful you are NOT hispanic or that would be another reason you don't get hired. And no one hires full time...it is all part-time, meaning, they can release you at any time for any reason....oh, yes and NO insurance

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Yes, all Part Time---no benefits!!!!!!!

Dawn Stevens

UPS gives benefits to part times people or at least they did five yeast ago

Paul LaRue

That's partly because Obamacare defines full time as being 30 hours a week or more. So companies get around that by only hiring us for 29 or less. Maybe the people who voted for that law didn't think about that...or maybe they didn't care, since THEY are all set for life

Im all right jack, keep your hands off of MY stack -- Pink Floyd

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A fellow Jobcaser

....Wasn't it Nancy Pelosi who said de MOST asinine thing, Well...you have to Vote fer de Bill in order to see what's in it ???....hope she rots in hell...privileged, spoiled, and damn stupid.....

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In some regions, if you are not bilingual (generally meaning Hispanic), you're not going to get a job. But then I'm in a place where many Hispanics are a part of the business community, including having their own chamber of commerce. That being said, I don't expect to be hired into a Mexican restaurant that is family owned and desires to keep their meals authentic. But yet, you see all the US fast food chains attempting to cater to the popularity of spices common to Hispanic meals, and generally, they follow all the federal laws and do all they can to diversify both their meals and their employees.

And I guess you can thank Obama for making healthcare so affordable. If it's so affordable, then surely you can get it with part time wages, right? You see, this is what happens when you let socialism creep in and ruin things. But hey, if you want all the entitlements promised by the government, why not work for the government and see how that goes? Of course, you still have to put up an application, send your resume, go through an interview, and likely need a background check and solid references. And guess, what, you still may get the same generic 'not a right fit' or 'we hired someone else, try back again!' rejection letters. And you can try suing the government for not getting a government job, see where that leads you too. Good luck with that!

Clay Rocker

The jobs report is full of sh__! Many jobs are temporary and part-time. There was a good reason why Trump won. Something has gotta give! I wish all of you the very best and don't give up. Hopefully, something will change.

I am here for support Unknown

Hey if all they are giving you is part time then eat up all the part times that you can. Take away five part time jobs. It's all about being marketable. I've seen guys in their 70!s land jobs. Keep hunting.

Jalecia Gibson

How so i apply

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OK thank you I will love working for ups

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As far as UPS. I have done 8 apps for UPS. They said they needed and still need drivers. I also have 5 positive points on driving record. Plus I had a 25 year veteran of ups put a word in for me ... Have not heard a word!!!!!!

Lazz Martinez

Younger workers nowadays would rather be on the phone and waste time on other selseless stuff..

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I think it's really a mix, between the younger generation that are the grand kids of the older, baby boomer generation. They've been given a lot of that psychobable about how everyone deserves first place, and that you can be whatever you want to be, and, much like their grandparents in the 60's rebelled against the establishment, the SJWs have their own kind of rebellion. And yet, it's a strange sort of one, because the system that their grandparents rebelled against, and much of it needed to be upturned, like segregation (which was enforce Federal law under Woodrow Wilson, dismissed 15 out of 17 black supervisors who had been previously appointed to federal jobs an replaced them with whites) - much of that real discrimination is gone. But when both the current generation, and the Baby Boomers come into the labor force, tossing around the rhetoric and threats of lawsuits any time they don't get accommodated for something, honestly, if you were an employer, would you even want to have them in your workplace, when they already give you the vibe in an interview of being the sort that would disrupt the workflow, or worse, threaten you with litigation all the time?

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I see just as much old people on there phones as well, the one that do figure it out get just as addicted, its not a generation problem its a people problem , thats why i refuse to own a phone

Lazz Martinez

Im into finding better jobs to make me better at what i do. With all do respect i keep getting these posts and quite frankly i detest them because these is not job offers..

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A fellow Jobcaser

...delete button...

Cheryl Workman

I'm trying to find out what this job is exactly.

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A fellow Jobcaser

...see above...

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What's a young worker? They don't exist. I'm 60 and I would much rather sort packages than sit around and play video games all day. How boring!

Mosier D Belton

I have checked out all of your comments, and it's truth in all, in fact I'll go a little further, people with life experiences has a lot to offer, starting with loyalty and dependability. As far as the law, you would have to prove that it's a breach of conduct. As far as younger people, we all was there at one time. Most young and dumb, but strong and will work for less. As far as age, I'm 69 years young, and I'm as good as most of the people on the line, and yes I would rather work then stay at home, I also have a gold mine of work knowledge LOL

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A fellow Jobcaser

...Dear Mosier, health is THE most important factor in this ' life '....if you stay active, have a great work ethic, eat plenty of PROTEIN to keep skin, bones, muscle's strong then you'll be all set---I've seen the elderly FADE extremely FAST when they stop MOVING & working....even if there is plenty of money to retire---NEVER stop gardening, shoveling snow, helping at homeless shelter's & church, etc.......And always keep in touch with de Majesty which is the God Family---Our Supreme Father Sir, our Creator & LORD Jesus ( the ONLY NAME which can save us ), and last but Not least our wonderful helper de Holy Spirit who grieves for us when our ' chips ' may be down....heppy New Yar to all....

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I agree with you.

Paul LaRue

I hear ya... I always say that I will know I'm retired when I hear that steady beat of dirt clods raining down on the small wooden box I'm laying down inside of, wearing my bast clothes

Delva Jackson

Absolutely!

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Yes that is true about the younger workers. But a bunch of the older workers can out work the younger workers

Richard Stanley

Work circles around my younger helpers.

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ANTHONY V. MANZO
19 Merritt Drive, Lawrenceville NJ  08648 (609) 218-7104 Anthonymanzo96@yahoo.com
 
EXPERIENCE
01/2014 to 11/2013          Global Industries – Robbinsville, NJ
Forklift Operator – Duties include the operation of the forklift to move, locate, stack, assembly and count merchandise.  As well as other general warehouse duties including shipping/receiving picking and packing specific to each order.
 
01/2013 to 01/2014          J&J Staffing
Princeton University Janitor Services – Oversee a variety of janitorial, custodial and/or security tasks to maintain assigned building in a clean and orderly fashion.  Responsibilities include the assembly and breakdown of meeting room furniture and equipment for internal meetings, as well as, conference meetings hosted by the University.
 
01/2011                             New Jersey Environmental Protection, Bureau of Support Services
Mail Room Operations – Relocation of office personnel and distribution of equipment to warehouse facilities and various associated services.
 
2007/2011                        Weber’s Boarding and Training – Princeton, NJ
Assist the in-take and release of Boarding pets and address client’s concerns regarding their pets.  Provided daily routine care, feeding and exercise, while providing a safe and clean environment, one of my most compassionate and awarding jobs.
 
2006/2007                        UPS – Hamilton Twp., NJ
Mail Helper (Seasonal) – Assisted the regularly assigned UPS during the holiday season for the delivery of packages of his assigned route.
 
Magma Pizza – Princeton NJ
Kitchen preparation and delivery
 
2005/2006                        U.S Post Office – Trenton NJ
Mailman (Temp Position) Delivered mail on designed route on daily bases.  Six month position was granted and renew again in 2006 until position was eliminated by postal service.
 
EDUCATION                     SORA Certified - ID: 340995G (12/18/14 – 12/18/16)
                                           Animal Control Office Certificate Program – ID: 02241
                                           Mercer County Community College – Culinary Certificate Program Votech                              Hamilton Township Adult Evening School
                                               
REFERENCES:                     Dave Horrowitz, Weber’s Kennel (609) 452-8080, Gabe Mayhani, Magma Pizza (609) 462-8383,Bill Bruschini, mark1restoration (Flemington) (609) 256-1940

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A fellow Jobcaser

....ANTHONY....I don't think this is the PROPER PLACE for your RESUME....delete as soon as possible....

Clay Rocker

Hey guys, he is desperate. Give him a break.

I am here for support Unknown

If your not getting a job then I can see why. You were just like me. Your resume suck. You need to revamp your resume. Many companies use equipment to screen your resume and if your resume is not tailored properly (which yours isnt) then it gets booted. I had to revamp mine many times and now I'm turning down opportunities.

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A fellow Jobcaser

...actually, now that Mr.Unknown points out---this could be a Blessing in Disguise....

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ANTHONY V. MANZO
19 Merritt Drive, Lawrenceville NJ  08648 (609) 218-7104 Anthonymanzo96@yahoo.com
 
EXPERIENCE
01/2014 to 11/2013          Global Industries – Robbinsville, NJ
Forklift Operator – Duties include the operation of the forklift to move, locate, stack, assembly and count merchandise.  As well as other general warehouse duties including shipping/receiving picking and packing specific to each order.
 
01/2013 to 01/2014          J&J Staffing
Princeton University Janitor Services – Oversee a variety of janitorial, custodial and/or security tasks to maintain assigned building in a clean and orderly fashion.  Responsibilities include the assembly and breakdown of meeting room furniture and equipment for internal meetings, as well as, conference meetings hosted by the University.
 
01/2011                             New Jersey Environmental Protection, Bureau of Support Services
Mail Room Operations – Relocation of office personnel and distribution of equipment to warehouse facilities and various associated services.
 
2007/2011                        Weber’s Boarding and Training – Princeton, NJ
Assist the in-take and release of Boarding pets and address client’s concerns regarding their pets.  Provided daily routine care, feeding and exercise, while providing a safe and clean environment, one of my most compassionate and awarding jobs.
 
2006/2007                        UPS – Hamilton Twp., NJ
Mail Helper (Seasonal) – Assisted the regularly assigned UPS during the holiday season for the delivery of packages of his assigned route.
 
Magma Pizza – Princeton NJ
Kitchen preparation and delivery
 
2005/2006                        U.S Post Office – Trenton NJ
Mailman (Temp Position) Delivered mail on designed route on daily bases.  Six month position was granted and renew again in 2006 until position was eliminated by postal service.
 
EDUCATION                     SORA Certified - ID: 340995G (12/18/14 – 12/18/16)
                                           Animal Control Office Certificate Program – ID: 02241
                                           Mercer County Community College – Culinary Certificate Program Votech                              Hamilton Township Adult Evening School
                                               
REFERENCES:                     Dave Horrowitz, Weber’s Kennel (609) 452-8080, Gabe Mayhani, Magma Pizza (609) 462-8383,Bill Bruschini, mark1restoration (Flemington) (609) 256-1940

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A fellow Jobcaser

...ANTHONY....this is NOT THE PLACE for your PERSONAL RESUME---delete as SOON AS POSSIBLE...

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A fellow Jobcaser

...I used his own number and called him--maybe he thought I was joking....

I am here for support Unknown

I'm going to redo your resume in a few days and send it to you. Start sendin this out and I guarantee you start getting hits..

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A fellow Jobcaser

...Well--That'sa Reeeeeely Nice-----Wow-----may de God Family truly Bless you for your outstanding generosity, Ron ( de BOMB )!!!......

Michelle Bergs

It's in my opinion that mature potential employees be given the initial opportunity to be hired, but I'm 'old school', what would I know.

I am here for support Unknown

Revamp your resume, you might say it's them but your resume might be saying it's you. They didn't have computers 20 years ago screening resumes so if yours isnt up to par then it gets thrown in the trash without ever being seen.

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Just because someone is younger does not mean they can do the job. What employers fail to realize is that elder employees are much more stable and will stick with a job where as the younger generation much of them will leave a job in a matter of months causing the revolving door effect which some companies go for because they can keep the wage income low. Employers should be hiring because of character and not because of a person age etc.. Sure anyone can apply and get a job BUT character is what keeps a person there for the long haul and commitment. Be Blessed!!

Shannon Preston

Please consider me I enjoy working hard and I like to stay at a company and learn and grow with them,

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Try FedEx they're the best company I ever worked for.

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You all are right. These companies hire people that are young and could care less about the job or people whos not going to do the job that you or I would do. But, they hire them and then in a short time they're hiring again for same position.

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It may sound great, but, honestly, the younger workers were taught this entitlement by both parents and grandparents, along with an education system that has the majority of its teachers being Baby Boomers and Gen-X-ers that teach the same psychobable that leads to the entitlement attitude. But then, we also have the rhetoric of litigation, which is its own aspect of entitlement, where people say, Well I deserve this job, so I'm going to sue you for it! And that's seen somewhat in both the young and old, mainly because the older generations started the entitlement train, and the younger are the caboose, showing the end result of the problems that come about because of the entitlement rantings of the older generations. So, as the generations go, the Baby Boomers especially have a lot of the responsibility for pushing the whole entitlement culture of the current generations, who ought to be working, who should be able to see the United States as a land of opportunity, and not one that is supposed to accommodate their every demands.

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You got that right.

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That is very true.

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Does this mean I have a job or what. I'm lost.

Marie Montgomery

I thank you for the opportunity.

Mark Copland

I had more than one time I was passed up for younger folks but where I work now the younger ones show up but dont do anything

Terry Lyle

I believe I can keep up with most of the younger folks. My last job I out worked most of them

Larry Bursey

I am 60 and I think sometimes they think I am young. But I got health problems and they do not care. So when I get 150 I am still 21.

Kevin Anderson

That is not very hard for the older generation to do , We grew up on the method of doing the right thing I think someone needs to preach that to most of the younger generation!!! Not us who had nothing and had to claw our way up!!!!!

Erica Smith

I proved myself just fine thank you, I held my position for over 4years. The entire time I was there I worked hard, obviously hints me being employed for overy 4years. The problem was a ongoing proble, with discrimination and unfair treatment during the entire 4years. So, belton your comment obviously does not pertain to me. Explain that, over 4years . I worked on the inside as a preloader, also driver. My hard work was apparent therefore what's your explanation 4that? UPS DISCRIMINATES /belton is only doing what he or she was paid 2do by the ups corp.,which is talk positive. It most def.isn't that simple when your the HUMAN BEING, being treated unfairly while working hard for a company that could care less, b/c the moment they can replace u they will. Nothing fair about that, especially when u have put in the hard work.

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What? I have worked for the postal service already and I was a great worker, improve what? a lot of older people can out work this generation

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I'm a 51 year old with old school work orientation. I'm a better employee by all traditional standards than the new generation of workers can imagine. And still have the stamina and conditioning to physically run circles around anyone...especially a mellinial!

I am here for support Unknown

Learn new skills it's not too late. Think about it. You have 14 more years to work so why don't you invest in yourself. One Stop Career Center has free training programs in any field that you desire. Look, the skills you learned 25 years ago are gone, they are obsolete. Good luck. How can anyone compete without outdated skills. I started out as a typist, there are no more typist around. I re-invented my self, revamped my resume.

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This is very true...they seem to firget that the older ones have the dedication ...stamina...experience..and most impotantly ...the need to stay at a job permenantly.

brenda maxey

I need that jo2

Kevin Garris

Do you discriminate?

Merritt Drouillard

I don't care what the law says, being middle aged, employers will pay younger workers less. I've been out of work for over 5 months since my job was outsourced. Being 56 years old, I've had many interviews. Many which I was told I was top of the list only to be told that they want to go in another direction. I am counting my Blessings that I had savings and a supportive family. The problems of the IT World. Positive Vibes for 2017.

Bradley Little

Please get ahold of me I was at church and would love to meet again

Shenell Edwards

I tank that it you can do the job you should get the jod

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Do you mean processor?

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This is discrimination

Steve Gregory

You make a good point. There is absolute age discrimination occurring in the workplace every day. I just ended a working relationship with Amazon, where I worked harder than I've ever worked in my decades of being in the work force. I have always had a strong work ethic and I ran circles around many of those half my age. I chalk it up to experience and move forward.

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It really depends on the company and what job you're looking into. When I first started looking for a job back around 2003, I had no work experience and just a college degree in my resume. I was told the usual stuff from the college that my degree will open doors and make me an easy sell. But then I went out to the real world, applied to places that interested me for various reasons. Most of them were retail, and their biggest question was often phrased as, You've got an education, why do you want to work for us?

In hindsight, I probably should have answered something like, I'm hoping to gain some hands on experience in retail and get a better working knowledge of how it all works. Something along those lines of letting them know I realize I have a college degree, but also understand the need for practical, common sense knowledge, and I was willing to work for them, even grow in the company.

That being said, it's easy to consider some discrimination based on age among employers. They technically aren't supposed to, but they still have to factor in and assess who is the right fit for the job and the company. A business isn't a charity, and even the charitable NGOs and the like don't just hire anyone. They have their specific notions of what the ideal candidate might be, and hire off of who among the candidates appear to have what they consider necessary for the job. For instance, maybe the last person in the position retired, and they're looking for someone that's not likely to retire any time soon. Doesn't mean they won't look at you, if you're older, but you might have a harder time at stating the case that you're not looking to be retiring in the near future.

There's many variables and opinions on this, whether you're younger or older, and feel that age or experience/inexperience have played a factor in why you didn't land a job. As it is, it remains an employer driven market in the job market. On some level, companies know they need consumers that are able to buy their products, and to have such consumers in the market means that you have to have people working in gainful employment. Thus, it's mostly working out the variables, and the potential employee doing their best to convince why they fit in with the company, or otherwise can be an asset.

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...Johnny--hope ya had a good celebration on de Eve...best fer you & yours in de upcomin' Yar...

Frank Odom

Working is not a right. Therefore if someone is not good for the company, for any reason, the person who owns the business has the right to fire them. Working and getting paid for it is a privilege.

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Well, there is right to work law, but that's generally in specific laws of certain states in order to secure the right of employees to decide for themselves whether or not to join or financially support a union.

However, one can state the case that Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, even in it's prior working of pursuit of property, goes to the heart of what free market enterprise and capitalism is supposed to be about. That is, we have a right to pursue capital, to pursue some sense of ownership of our personage and what we labor in and create. We are not to be slaves to our labor, but our labor ought to be pursued for what gains in property, in capital that can come from it. From that pursuit, we may acquire some aspect of happiness, particularly if our work aids us in maintaining our life and liberty, which can mean things like providing for the livelihood for a family, and other ways and means that a person can use their capital, not just for themselves, but also for others.

Clay Rocker

Problem is if we can't find work, we won't eat. Without work, we are either homeless or on welfare and both are problems for the government (taxpayers). Working and getting paid for should be a contract and both sides should be ethical (honest and hardworking).

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You shouldn't be so,critical of the older workers, we are better than some of the younger workers, I know because I have seen them just standing around just talking to other younger people. As for us older people we work not talk to people.

JB Blank

One needs to have the mindset to 'prove' their worth, regardless of their age.

However, it needs to be remembered that whatever an employer would 'rather' do, it's a violation of Federal law to discriminate based on age. Any and every employer even attempting to do so should immediately be challenged, and a complaint filed with the appropriate agencies if the applicant even 'feels' they're being discriminated against based on their age.

Only by collectively getting in the habit of 'calling out' employers for age discrimination will this prohibited conduct be changed.

That is exactly the methodology utilized by those who, in years past, were discriminated against for their skin color or gender.

JB Blank

One needs to have the mindset to 'prove' their worth, regardless of their age.

However, it needs to be remembered that whatever an employer would 'rather' do, it's a violation of Federal law to discriminate based on age. Any and every employer even attempting to do so should immediately be challenged, and a complaint filed with the appropriate agencies if the applicant even 'feels' they're being discriminated against based on their age.

Only by collectively getting in the habit of 'calling out' employers for age discrimination will this prohibited conduct be changed.

That is exactly the methodology utilized by those who, in years past, were discriminated against for their skin color or gender.

If one is not willing to 'fight' or 'stand up' for them self, they should not believe anyone else will do so.

Just some thoughts.

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it needs to be remembered that whatever an employer would 'rather' do, it's a violation of Federal law to discriminate based on age.

It also needs to be remembered that, if you are going to take this to court, you better have the evidence to show that indeed the employer discriminated. Filing false charges of discrimination not only leaves you without a job, but also can leave you with serious legal penalties.

Before going into such things, it may help to consider facts, and not just the 'feeling' that you were discriminated, and see if your definition of it aligns with the court's definition.

http://www.employmentandlaborinsider.com/discrimination/9-signs-that-youll-lose-your-age-discrimination-case/

JB Blank

Well John,

Appreciate the cynicism. However, such rhetoric ONLY aids companies in violation of the law to continue violating that law.

What was actually stated was, Any and every employer even attempting to do so should immediately be challenged, and a complaint filed with the appropriate agencies...

This action helps to establish a 'pattern' of discrimination, which the 'appropriate agencies' may utilize as evidence to substantiate a case. It would then, subsequently, be said agencies that would take this to court.

As appropriately noted, this was the methodology utilized in years past to substantiate illegal discrimination cases for other reasons. And, the methodology DID, in fact work. As is now quite well known.

The objective, is to fight against such discrimination, where and as it currently exists, since it IS a violation of Federal law. Rather than to continue perpetrating the false narrative that 'there's nothing anyone can do about it'.

Additionally, it's unlikely an applicant would be 'left without a job' if they weren't hired, or considered for hire, in the first place due to such discrimination. Further, if one legitimately believes they've been discriminated against, there are no 'legal penalties' for filing a complaint with the appropriate agencies.

It's likely better not to attempt to 'scare' people into ignoring the fact that the discrimination exists where it does, indeed, exist. Again, this only permits companies in violation to continue their prohibited activities. What would be the motives for perpetuating such a false narrative? One can only wonder.

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify.

Joe Merwin

What the hell is a Prosser? If that's supposed to say processor then you need to take a look at yourself. The Internet literally has all of the world's information at your fingertips. Use it. Thank you for doing your part to not fuck up the gene pool any further.

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A fellow Jobcaser

....c'mon, Joseph....it's de HEART that matters---and Mosier has a great one---you....well, somethin' to strive fer, perhaps....

Joe Merwin

What in the hell does that even mean? And what does having heart have to do with spelling? You sound like you need a lesson in reading comprehension. There should be a license to keep stupid people off the Internet. Something like a drivers license. That would be a dream come true lol

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...so more arrogant, insensitive, prideful & blowhard people can utilize de Internet.....right??....A gentleman misspells ONE word and his gene pool needs NOT survive?? At 69 years young, pretty safe bet his grandchildren are ' lol ' at your absurdity....what's definitely NOT funny is that you think you're better than Mosier, or probably, everyone else...Being such an Einstein, only genius' like you can use the Internet ; you, sir, are an Idiot...you incriminate yourself by your own logic--you'd fail your own ' license ' to be on here !! And a Coward, at that, because at 69 years young-- Mosier would have NO problem grabbing your scruffy chicken-neck and snapping your head clean off, likewise, if ya had de ( wimpy ) balls to say what you did to his Face...a gentleman with a good Heart is hard to find---hatemongers like you are prevalent by de dozens...and thar should be a license against that... YOUR idiot gene pool should be thrown back into de Sea....A nation of Mosier's who work hard, are FAR better than one condescending JoeShmo Measly who has no respect fer his Elders...

Joe Merwin

You must have an inferiority complex, Mr. Bleeding Heart. Never once did I say, or imply that I am better than the OP. I did plainly state that his ignorance was appalling considering he has a job, access to Internet, BUT ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO SPELL PROCESSOR lmfao.

So, Steve...putting your comment into quotes doesn't make it relevant, or add to its accuracy. You're uptight writing style is a clear sign you need to pull the stick outta your ass, buddy. Have a great night lol

Albert Lucero

how do i apliey

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It's all about production. I say this if you know you can't hang or meet the requirements then why apply, why even want to work there? It's not fair to the company and it's not fair to oneself no matter your age or gender. Furthermore it's no law that said they have to call you back and hire just because you applied and or have good work ethic, it's about meeting production and the bottom line. I always say move with the flow of traffic or move over and find a different route. Simple as that and again that goes for any age/gender.

maria Olivares

I agree...Us older folks need to work. We got to eat too. They think were too old to work. But were too young to retire. My 20 year old Stepson quits his jobs whenever he feels like it and never has a problem finding other jobs. I am 45 and it's a struggle for me to find work. And I can work circles around him. Employers need to be held accountable for breaking hiring discrimination Laws

JOE GENOVESE

Maria go apply online Home Depot
They have benefits and hire seniors

JOE GENOVESE

What? Are you kidding ? After 50 your a dinosaur after 65 a relic !!

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I been interviewed and hired, yet refused position due to an expected layoff after holidays. There is no discrimination old, young, skinny, heavy set, disabled, all hired with equal treatment, totally diverse group in race and nationality. They could be used as poster child for equal opportunity employers. Hard physical work, but fair and totally honest with workers. I would Give them a plus rating. Respectfully Moe

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I think you had better be versed on the rules of discrimination. You should be ashamed at this comment you made. Older worker are twice as concerned about being on time and doing s better job tha a younger person that know they are not going to stay. Shame on you

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What is a mail prosser?

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I can do the job asap

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I can do the job

k y

I was laid off and my job went to someone 17 years older with no administrative experience. He was hourly, I was salary. I hear he's struggling mostly because he won't listen to anyone. Guess they got what they paid for.

Verline Brown

That's understandable.

Jesse Carter

That is wrong. First off no wide bottom girl or guy who spends there whole day sitting behind a desk miget or 300 pounds should be telling someone else to keep up with a younger person. It is not an older persons job to compete with a younger person. What you just said is discrimination. If they can afford to keep hundreds of corp. people sitting on there butts all day long, you would think they could afford to lighten the load for older people. The truth is that after saving millions on the use of computers they then turned around and put the profits in there pockets and stayed using slave labor. But its only business. . . , right? B.S. No it is not. The poor are struggling to stop going homeless. That's personnel. And even if you did win a case in court. When is the last time you saw a corp. Behind bars? You don't. They just pay out and keep using you while you do it because you HAVE TO. The question every one should be asking is For what, does it prosper a nation to have poverty. If they claim to be a Capitalist society? It doesn't. If history is correct it is communism that feeds off the poor. I thought we were above that.

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Yep it is sometimes that way, some companies do prefer hiring younger people because they don't wanna pay older people with experience what they're worth. Good Point !. :)

ms sa

The first part of your statement is age discrimination. The second part applies to all persons upon employment to satisfactorily perform the job duties. What concerns me about the second part of your statement is it suggests persons of age are not capable of performing. More likely than not people of age will work twice as hard due to age discrimination.

Richard Roark

You are correct.

Herman Smith Jr

I am in very good health for my age

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Ok eztoy deacuerdo

Richard Roark

I work at Amazon for a second seasonal job. I am 52. I work circles around the younger people. All of the older people (except 1 whom tries to act like a 20 something) work better and more diligently then the younger ones. Skills such as being polite, listening to safety instructions and following rules. Oh, and then there is the work itself. Hard, physical work but still, I am out working the kids. The older people get it done, then move to other areas without being asked to help out. 20 something's stand around and chat or text until told what to do.

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Hi Mosier, I think that is always the case. Any person regardless of age needs to produce or at least improve to keep their job. To me that is not an age issue. It is a matter of performance.

charles Smith

Very interested

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Yes i could prove myself if USPS gives me a chances I really want to grow and I think that if you guys give me a chance I would love to work for you guys

John Jones

I am in two different trades...and I find that I regularly out perform younger people..... They can replace you with a younger body just to get more years...but they can't replace skill.....I find I have to show younger workers how to think on their feet improvise and other skills that just can't be learned... And they just can't do it or just don't want to...nothing can replace skill and years of experience.... Do I worry about being replaced..... No!....I worry that there will be no with my skill level and drive to take over when I am ready to leave.

Richard Roark

John Jones are are 100% correct. There is a certifiable lack of problem solving and critical thinking skills in the 20/30 something crowd.
If they cannot Google it or find an app, they cannot do it. This is not 100%. Those involved in the Maker movement are head and shoulders above their peers.
The rest..I will give you a quote from a 20 something last week Oh, it's okay to be late twice a week... end quote. Really???

Kathi Sterner

Older employees for the most part are reliable, hard working, have good work ethics are trustworthy. They have experience in life and can use that wisdom out in the job force. Many younger people I work with not all of them of course, they don't really appreciate the job they have. They do as little as possible and still stay employed. Drives me crazier. The old saying we old schoolers know, Any job worth doing is a job worth doing well. So set off your duffs and hop to it.

John Jones

Couldn't have said it better!!!

Bryant Alexander

I can do any job i put my mind to, it not about young or old it about the person.

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REALLY!!! This sounds like age discrimination to me, I'm in need of work even at my age ,I still have to eat and pay my way ,I'm also a disabled vet.I think it's a damn shame how it seems that you judge a book by its cover before opening the damn book...just think I like so many others served this country to keep people & companies like you safe and free.My time seems like a waste

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I feel that I am more than qualified to do this job .I have been in this type of work industry for over 20 years. So Im sure that Im more than capable than a younger person coming in new and who has to try to get where I am.

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A fellow Jobcaser

Yes kinda but we all know you can do your best!

Norman Nitschke

As I am now unemployed after 50 years, I find you need to push on into other fields. Personally, I have been a boss, and I would eventually hire someone over thirty, as the younger crowd, working for five years when you looked at their resumes, had 5 jobs in that period. It is for sure, times have turned. Anyone over 50 and even older, have the experience of a long time in the outside world. They value what they have done over their working career. However, it is also the newer breed of employers that do not what is going on. Anyway, keep on looking, and if you can do the job if given the chance, that is the main object.

Dena McCarty

I'm very interested in this job where do I need to apply

Norman Nitschke

What is a ups prosser. I thought that was a city in Washington or a school name, not a type or description of a job. Maybe UPS processor

Cindy Pitts

Yes i can im not that old ...

Craig Keitz

I can outperform any younger person because I know what work is and demand is all about. I will go the the extra mile.

Cherrie Shoats

Hello I'm interestedin this post I'm a very motivated person who loves mail please consider my application

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My age is no problem I can and provide that I am a great asset to this job

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What the he'll is a Prosser? Don't you mean Processor? Why would anyone want to work for a place that doesn't even know the English Language? I mean Langige. Tahnks.

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Ok I'm a very fast worker and leaner I'm ready for anything

William Barrett

i have been loading trucks for ten years ,doing most of this by myself ,for three years with no help, they sent all the rest home!

frank marcus

hello,

is good to hear from you, i am interested and ever ready for any job that is giving to me, i look forward to hear from any employer.
your sincerely.
frank.

Jessica Abrante

this is jessica well i am in slience i have never had anyone say that to me before, you see i dont have a car and i dont have my lisence yet and um i really do apreicate what you are offering but i really dont have a car i am just looking for part time.

Tim Durpos

I think it's a good idea to have older reliable people with good moral character mixed in with the young crowd to be an example to the younger workers

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I agree with you regarding younger workers, but the places that I have worked the young ones are the ones standing around chating and not doing their job! Many of them not all and complain about not wanting to do the task they were instructed to do so.

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I'm ready to prove what I can do I also have my workers permit.

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Belt on mosier give me a job and I will do my best, I'm young full of energy efficiency and good knowledge

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Well thank you for that chance so what happenes now?

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Got you on that! Very true advice!

samuel babalola

Forget about age, consider wealth of experience, wisdom , past performance in related fields.

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Is there one located in Louisville near by Valley station?

JB P

I think that's a general observation. I would say it depends on the climate. Certainly there is companies that prefer to hire young people, especially those companies that pay minimum wage. I worked for a company that did their best not to hire anyone 18. Their take was those under 18 were not serious about working and always wanted to constantly take time off. I would agree when one is hired they need to work hard and make themselves a value to the company.

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Most companies hire younger workers because they can easily save money on wages, and they have no issues learning the job requirements. Senior workers although experience tend to have problems learning new things and or are prone to complain about being over tasked. HRs also look for healthy workers with longevity in the position. They are careful not to let you know the reasons for not hiring you. It's just the way it is. But fear not. There are companies that will hire experienced senior workers. You'll have to do the research find those companies. Hang in there.

Rhonda Epps-Kim

Having been in the workforce for approximately 30+ years, I can tell you that I am a top notch IT tech, have an iPhone, keep up with all the new apps, have been in intense training for fiber optics, email internet security, etal....My health is superb, don't take any meds at all, have a voracious sex life, am flexible, have NO problem learning new things or remembering.
Never complain even when my last supervisor rummaged through my back pack while I was on lunch break. We seniors put up with most without complaining because we silently sit and nod our heads at the stupidity and niavete of our chronological underlings.
Many of us have been there and done that. So we already know the outcome.
I have trained class after class of young new hires who complete the paid training only to get the money then go to the next job with paid training so they never have to go and actually work.
Most resent those who do too much because they want to do as little as possible just to get a check.
Many seniors are raising grandchildren, have an I'll spouse, took care of their kids and now have nothing to fall back on because a troubled family member sucked their bankroll dry.
They need to work because SS isn't enough and the illegal aliens pouring into our country stand in line for free food, medical care and child support and there is no room in that line for them when they need help.

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Good morning my name is, Donald Jones.I'm interested in applying for the Mail Processor position. What are the requirements to apply?

Rhonda Epps-Kim

Paul Skinner, your assumption that people over a certain age can't produce as fast or work frickin circles around your 270-300 lb 20-30 yr old slug who pops Pepsi's and chips at every break, has high blood pressure, smokes, drinks and will eventually die of a heart attack on the job costing the factory thousands of dollars....you are blind and a product of our assumptive society. My guess is, as a body builder, race walker, weight lifter......I could put pack, out lift, out last anyone in your company.

Rhonda Epps-Kim

Oh, and by the way, I'm 67 going on 68.

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Well, that's your opinion but.. that contradicts tha policy if the US already that there is no discrimination.. either in age, race or whatever as long as you can still work and prove your worth to the job, then there's no problem.. I have been a teachet for many years and experienced working in an office for almost ten years and never did they say that I do not deserve the job but instead I was an asset to the agency... What a disgusting to find out that you're after the age qualifications. Never underestimate us because there are still many things that we can do which you can't.. OMG!

Kolby Williams

I love working and I'm a hard worker and Im not lazy I will be on my job

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Hard working, fast learner.Even at my age.

Susan Talbot

What I don't get is they Will hire people with tattoos and piercings ( and that's cool) but why can't they hire people over 50 ( I'm 57 yes old). We will be more loyal to the company, we're more reliable and hard working and more respectful than some of these kids they hire.

Jessica Green

I am a very strong and intelligent when it comes to my job I always show and prove with whatever I do. Would love to take this job but CT is to much of a travel thanks

Edward GilliardUsflag

I CAN SEE YOUR POINT YET I HALF TO PARTIALLY DISAGREE BASED ON THE FACT THAT 35 I BELIEVE IS NOT OLD EXPERIENCE OVERSHADOWS YOUTH THE JOB MUST BE DONE CORECTLY AS WELL AS FASTER

Prince Duo

I think that is the right point

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mr. Belton,

 for the most part, you've hit the nail on the head.  Businesses do want the younger people because, in my opinion, they can push them around a lot more with changing schedules, changing responsibilities, totally insane attendance policies, etc.  I've heard of WalMart, for example, having employees being sick and calling in within the time limit stated in the contract telling their bosses ahead of schedule that they'd be out for a day or two.  When they come back, they just went ahead and quit because they knew that the super was building up to a firing speech.  It seems that some businesses in some states fire whenever they want to for whatever they want to.

 As for me,  thanks to the military, I became a more dependable worker.  I've NEVER been late to work, I've NEVER called in sick or left work early because I was sick,  ALWAYS clocked in at least 15 minutes early, and was always ready to help anyone who asked for help.  I've been turned down by so many local businesses it isn't funny.  why don't businesses want someone that can be depended on?  I'd rather train a person on-the-job that is dependable than sit at a table arguing with someone that thinks they're a good worker when their past says no.
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Age discrimination is against the Labor Code and is a valid workers' compensation claim...serious and willful misconduct on the part of the employer..

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Send me a job I'm willing to work

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Does not matter the age, you have to do the job. It's a 2 way street, without employees there is no company. Anyone that does not hire because of age is not 40 yet! People that have been around a while, have experience and as far as I am concerned, that trumps it all! Discrimination starts at 40 and people have another 25 years to work.

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Me I love being put to standerds it gives me something to work towrds

shaky 78

I would like to work part times

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I don't know about everyone else but after a time we all get tired of hitting that clock every morning. So when we get near retirement we all look forward to saying it. So let the young people get a chance to hit the clock every morning for the next 30 or 40 years and ask them how they liked it.

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You. Have to Remember My peoples..? Its a Insurances/Pension Progress that gets the Older Folks to reach their Retirement and Reset rage Cycle for the On going and New comers.. To simple Brother Mossier. Stop complaining and Open up your 3Rd Eye Brother! ! That Goes for the Rest of You Brothers and Sisters too!!! Please Read Between the Lines. - E Saga 508 Fraction

Nancy Best

I think its only fair to give someone a chance but accuracy is also a plus if the person is older

Ronald Myers

I will prove my loyalty

Ronald Myers

I will prove my loyalty to get this job it really means alot to me

Henriqueta Cipriano

Thank you for your advise but in my opinion this is definitively obvious, don't you think so?

Victor Webber

So what are you trying to say I can out work any young man you put beside me