Mary Flaven
4 months ago
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Wrongful termination

Need advice: I'll start with this...

I joined a company (I'll leave the company name out for privacy reasons) back in 2019 and I LOVED it. I never had any attendance or performance issues during my 2 years working for this company NOR during all of my 28 years of working for six other companies. I started working at 16 years old and I am now 44. More importantly, I've never been written up, terminated or even came close to it until It happened to me this year. I am very respectful, professional, energetic, honest and the reasoning I was terminated is still unfathomable.

In a nut shell:

The company I worked for is a husband and wife owned company in Los Angeles, both in their mid 60's. I worked as a consumer relations specialist and enjoyed my job very much. I was renting a house in L.A (owner of the house was aware) and I had an empty room available for rent. I reached out to my co-workers and asked them if they knew of anyone looking for a place to live and to my surprise, one of my co-workers best friends was interested and since I was familiar with this girl, it was a perfect fit, one that I felt comfortable about moving in opposed to bringing in a stranger.

I met this girl Jenn (new roommate) 13 years ago when i moved to Los Angeles. She is a very nice, beautiful, smart and very outgoing woman. Jenn met the owners of the company approx 7 years ago and they became friends. When I started working for the company 2 years ago, became friends with a co-worker who is close friends with Jenn and this is how I was reunited with Jenn who soon became a roommate. Jenn does not gossip nor does she have a bad bone in her body. She never once made mention that her and the owners wife had a disagreement, she only spoke good things about both the owner and his wife. I was unaware that there was some conflict between Jenn and the owners wife because it was never mentioned to me.

What triggered the owners wife to wrongfully and unfairly terminate me: I posted two separate pictures of co-workers from the company who share the same Birthday followed by another post of my new roommate, Jenn and I celebrating her move in to the house and the following morning, this is when the owners wife screamed at me, calling me every name in the book and told me to F-off and find another job. I was called a F- liar, a snake and all the extremely mean and cruel things that aren't true but they hurt. The owners wife got upset with me because I did not ask her for her approval or permission to have Jenn move in. Again, this is my personal life and whatever happened between her and Jenn is none of my business and it was never made my business. The other issue she mentioned during her very abusive phone call was that I befriended employees from the office and she doesn't like that. Isn't that what co-workers do? Correct me if I am wrong, please! She got upset that I posted Birthday "shout outs" to my co-worker friends before she had the chance to do it and told me that making friends with other co-workers is not allowed. Speechless. I felt like I was in Junior high again with this behavior and this is exactly why she terminated me.

Side note: I'm sorry, I didn't know that I had to ask anyone for permission to allow ANYONE to move into my home that I pay rent for. In my mind, I thought, is this really happening right now?

She would not give me a chance to speak and as you can imagine, I was in tears and thought that this was a horrible nightmare that I was having. That phone call was followed by an awful text message from the owners wife which caused me a lot of emotional distress. An HR friend of mine, suggested that I don't respond back and to take screen shots of the text messages she sent which I'm glad I did. Shortly after, I tried to reach out to her husband, the owner but my calls and texts were avoided. The company does not have an HR department so I literally had no one to call to discuss this with. The Owner (husband) finally had his assistant call me to apologize and tell me to hold tight and that his wife is having a bad day and to give her some time to cool off and even made a joke that he's been verbally abused by her and fired many times so not to worry.

Well, I was called back at a later time and was told that the owners wife didn't want me to come back and that I will no longer be getting paid. My direct deposit was cut off along with my health benefits that Friday. Note: They do not offer health benefits but when I was interviewed, I was told that they would make an exception to pay for my health benefits which I was very appreciative of and they also asked me to not share this with other employees. I sent emails to the owner and received no response. I wasn't given any termination documentation with the reasoning for terminating me. I was completely avoided and being treated like this was a pretty awful feeling and experience.

My claim through unemployment was denied by the company I and their reasoning was: Personality differences. I am obviously on a waiting list to get interviewed by EDD and thank God, I saved all the abusive text messages that has caused me a lot of emotional distress. I am still in disbelief that some employers in California can get away with this type of abusive, unprofessional and unethical behavior to their hard working employees.

Something I'd like to add: This company doesn't have a company policy handbook, doesn't have an HR department or lead, they pay any employees who work over time in cash rather than reporting this through the payroll system, They do not have a clock in/out system and they do not follow any break laws, most if not ALL of the employees are full time and they only provide health benefits if you ask. They don't provide sick leave, PTO, vacation, dental, health or vision. If you ask to take a day off, they make you feel very guilty.

Sorry for the novel but I am still very deeply shocked by all of this...

Please understand that I am NOT looking to sue this company. I just want them to be ethical, honest and run their company legally and treat their employees much better. I was terminated by the wife of the owner and if he did the right thing and approved my unemployment, I wouldn't be here writing about this today. Allegedly, the owner does not like to pay out unemployment and fights to dispute all employee claim cases because he doesn't want his unemployment insurance to go up. He doesn't lay employees off, he waits for something small to happen so that he can terminate them, preventing them to not get any unemployment.

Another employee (sweet as can be and equally as a hard worker) was screamed at and terminated because she planned an office holiday "after work" outing and didn't invite the owners wife and she forced her husband, the owner to go into the office and fire her. This poor girl nearly had a nervous breakdown :(

Thank you for reading any advice is greatly appreciated.

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aaron aragon

No case...employment at will is the U.S. law of the land. Without a union contract or mutually signed agreement with your employer you have nothing. Unless your civil rights were violated, move on and learn from your ordeal.

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Royce Kono

Federal Labor laws, unfair Labor practice.

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Timothy Tedrick

Another place to contact and ask for advice/help regarding this situation is your state assemblyman or senator who represent your district. I had a situation regarding unemployment and my assemblyman’s office was quite helpful. Many people forget that our elected state office holders are a valuable resource when situations like this arise.

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Luis Blanco

Be strong, I lost a professional position after 24 years and thought now what. Well, I have been working and experiencing different fields and now feel it was a blessing. I have learned so much and now know one thing, my life and family is more important than any job. I make less money, but I’m stress free. Best of luck, you will survive

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Angela Wiley

Good advice Luis! God may have closed this door to give something bigger and better. Don’t look back and don’t let this incident keep you from growing. All of your blessings are in front of you not behind you.

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Barbara Cass

I just went thru the same thing-being terminated for some silly thing. I literally gave this company 18 years of my life, dealing with a very sick husband and unforunately losing him this year, and then getting let go. I got no backing from my dept. manager-just a union rep that cared enough to look into it. I landed another job the same day making more per hour than I had after 18 years! God really does close one door and open new ones! I am happier where I am with less hours, less stress, and better work conditions.

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Juliet Parson

You should sue them! And you should have appealed your unemployment! They cannot deny it to you based on what they said! You would have had to have done something wrong! Clearly the lady is an insane psycho B#$%@! I would not have took this l

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Lucinda Andresen

I feel for you . I am an MA working for the same type of business. No HR no benefits. I roomed patients with no lunch or breaks. I have been at home since August recovering from a stress fracture of my foot. I am scheduled for surgery on 10/27th. I was getting paid salary and I have 5 years worth of checkstubs to prove this. I feel that i am being forced to retire due to my age. I have no intention of retiring at this time. I have a dependent in college . I was asked to return my key but never told I have a job waiting for me. I am running out of money. I asked to start a workman's comp case but was told in a text by the office manager no it was not happen in the office so no. This type of fracture happens over time. So I cannot file for unemployment cannot file a wc claim . What do I do? I will be homeless unless I retire. I should not be forced to retire.

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Sharita Jones

any good lawers thar can help me with my case please someone let me know.

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Sherril Melchi

Look into it u can prob sue for loss wages and conflict of interest. That had nothing to do with ur job. Sounds like a very insecure woman

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