I was a good worker always on task and they fired me just because I didn't put my second last name on my application!!
This is why Fed Ex can't keep people or better yet show them the utmost respect......Some people in HR are morons who basically got by on a middle school education and don't even know how to talk to people.....hire them one minute and terminated them the next.....lack of communication......
Yes an application is a legal documentation you hereby state that all information is true and correct if your legal last name is two last names on your ID on your social security card and you failed to put it on your application then you are falsifying the information therefore no suspension instant termination dude got exactly what he deserved
California is not an at will state. But when they hire normally get a copy of the drivers license and SD card. Most people go by these documents. So if they all match, what was put on the application. Should have a case. People don't always go by their " full name. And as long as it wasn't done for fraudulent purposes. I would be talking to the hr and to the labor board.
There are few
pure At Will states but all States (California included) have this type of underlying arrangement, most with one or more of three sorts of exemptions - Public Policy, Implied Contract and Covenant of Good Faith. All these exemptions place the burden-of-proof on the firede employee, in any wrongful termination lawsuit.
I agree UPS is a horrible place to work. My fiance worked there for 3wks n only recieved 1 check n was for his 1st week n then they didnt give him the right hours the didnt pay him forn7hrs of work n he didnt even get it when he was supposed to. They still owe him a check cuz they let him go cuz of another driver that did nothing by lie but cuz he was there longer they fired my fiance. He still hasnt recieved his check and its been almost a month. But yet they r on top of getting there uniform back. But my fiance told them u want the uniform i want my check or he is taking it to the labor board here in Plattsburgh, Ny. They cant keep ppl at this one cuz there always messing with ppls money.
There are rules and regulations for every job. If you can't follow simple directions like
print your full name, what would cause them to think you can follow directions regarding work?
You also signed something that said you had answered all questions completely and truthfully. So you lied.
Learn from this and move on.
Jan the full name gets confusing at time especially if there is a name change involved. And they already know he can follow directions because while working otherwise they would have fired him for doing his job incorrectly , but that's not the case. A simply background check of the full name would have let them know if he was hiding something. There's a difference between a mistake and lying on your app, But I'm sure you've never made a mistake before.
Jason, How are you confused when asked your full legal name? I know mine! My resume has my maiden name on it because I married while at my last job, but I ALWAYS put my legal name on an application and sign my legal name. It's a pretty straight forward question. (Many online applications ask if you used another name, or what name you prefer to be called. My friend Thomas fills in Tom, for example. That is the appropriate way to fill an application out. Or, in the comments box, write in the name you prefer to be called.)
Basic written English comprehension goes a long way avoiding these issues.
Yes, It is legal. When you sign the document affirming all information is true to the best of your knowledge, there is usually a clause below that says any information that is found to be incorrect, can be grounds for immediate dismissal. Usually if you have a day wrong for a job 10 years ago, it'll be overlooked. Not giving your legal name seems suspiciously like an attempt to mislead.
If when filling out your job application they asked for your legal name and you didn't write it down, then they can fire you, I'm not saying its right, but that can give them the right to let you go. Also if you were still in your probation period they can terminate you with out reason. Either way you have the right to have it in writing why you were fired and for them to write down the policy that givea them the right to fire you.
Giovanni !!! That does sound a bit harsh and unreasonable. However, if you did not give your full legal name on the application, that could be interpreted as an attempt to falsify information on your application. In my experience, that is good reason to terminate one's employment. Employers do have the right to receive true and legally accurate information on the employment application.
No judgement here just curious why you didn't you use your full legal name? When you apply I'm sure you're aware there are a lot of employers who do background and even credit checks on you prior to hiring you. It's strange that you were fired for that reason, doesnt sound fair I've heard places will usually work with you as long as your background check comes back clear. If this was the case maybe you should talk to an attorney and see what your options are and go from there.
I understand that does suck, but it was not unlawful or unfair. It states on every APP that u sign,u r agreeing all info is correct to the best of your knowledge. It also asks usually if there is any other name u had gone by. So there was 2 chances to answer correctly. This is actually for your benefit for tax reasons.and later in life social security income. Plus they figure if u r going to hide yr true Identy then u have reason to hide.
There's two sides to every story and something about your story doesn't sound right. Did Fedx run a background check on you and something came up with your second last name? If so, they let you go for falsifying information. Grow-up and take responsibility for your actions.
IF, FedEx did let you go for something as remedial as not disclosing your second last name, just take your experience to UPS, DHL, USPS (United States Postal Service) or to other shipping companies.
You complaining about a company as big as FedEx who has a reputation to protect, and a public persona of a great employer; sounds like the issue is with you not them. Your statement only display your immaturity and lack of accountability.
Hi Elizabeth, my reply doesn't. Have anything to do w topic you guys are talking about. I read your title next to your name your a professional resume writter OMG I would love for someone to teach me to do a resume BC in looking for a job ASAP. My name is Jessica Turbeville. My email address is jessturb1977@Gmail.com. I would like your in put if you have time. Thanks.
Wow! I'm glad our Fed Ex isn't like that here in Indpls. I would contact your Workforce Development ( unemployment office for advice ) It sounds like they might be able to justify that as an
Unjust Cause. Whether or not you return to work or not, that claim will help you with further employment. You don't want Fired on your record, ya know! You guys aren't Union, right? And, technically, you would think checking a persons application BEFORE even calling them for an interview, is HR/Recruiter responsibilities. I'm suprised though, the computer would not let us continue to the next window if something was wrong or missing. Something sounds Fishy about all that. I would definitely check into that A.S.A.P. The longer you wait, the more time they will have to cover their tracks. Good luck! I hope you are able to rub it in their faces!!!
No you suck. Why wouldn't you provide your second last name? Seems shady. Imagine for a moment a stranger was applying to control your hard earned money and did not provide their second last name. Would you hire this stranger who's name you do not know? Of course not. Basically you lied on your application which everyone knows is a no-no and the reality is that you would fire you too!
Plain and simple your birth name that shows on your birth certificate is associated to your social security number which should be the same name that you used on any legal application with any application is a legal documentation notice the fine print I hereby state that all information is true and correct if you failed to give a second last name even though it is your legal name then it's on you it looks like fraud it ends up with IRS issues with the company paying taxes for one of their employees and it is instant termination in any business in the country I would rather terminate an employee instead of paying the IRS a $25,000 fine because employees failed to give me their second last name on an application also if child support is looking for you with both last names and you only have one while working they're not going to find you this is also another reason as to why any business in the country can terminate you for not putting your legal information on a legal document job application
Wow! Big WRONG! My birth certificate certainly doesn't have my legal name on it! I legally changed my name when I married. My Social Security card and Drivers license have my married name on them. That is my legal name. I always include my maiden name in parentheses, since I married while at my last job, and my prior jobs wouldn't know me by my married name.
Please don't post information as truth when you don't know the correct answer.
I know that sounds like a poor reason for letting you go, but I wanted to offer you (and the others on this thread bringing the torches and pitchforks) an alternative view. As has been mentioned, when you submit an application to FedEx and they use your name to run a background check, you are required to provide your full legal name. If you only provided part of your name then you technically falsified your application. Not providing your accurate name is A. BIG. DEAL. Why? Because as an employee of FedEx you have exposure to customer information including addresses, phone numbers, and potentially visibility to the sizes and types of packages customers receive. Personally, as a FedEx customer, I'm glad to hear they take matters of integrity like this seriously. While only providing part of your name may have been an innocent mistake on your part, criminals looking for information on where and what kind of packages are being delivered to people would not be so innocent. You didn't mention what job you were doing for FedEx but if you were in a delivery role then it's even more serious.
I'm really sorry that you had to learn such a hard lesson, but I do not believe the company was being discriminatory or unfair. Their top priorities are the safety of their customers and employees, as well as their brand reputation. To do that, it's critical they know exactly who they've hired and thy need your full and accurate name to determine that you are who you say you are. I hope you take this painful lesson and learn from it, and find a great new job soon.
Do not believe this....I worked for FedEx for 15 years. They bend over backwards for their workers. Good workers reap many benefits and can expect a long term job with good chances for promotion. I have know so many FedEx workers, blue collar, office, managerial.....I have never heard of this kind of complaint. FedEx has very stringent company policy about 'firing' someone. It's just not done this way......sorry, not credible. Way more to this story.
Hi Doris Rudy, my name is Jessica. I just read your post and I see that you worked for Fedex for 15 years. I was wondering I'm looking for a job ASAP and would like to work for Fedex. I live in Ocala FL. Where do you live and do you still work for Fedex? If you can help my email address is jessturb1977@gmail. Com. Thanks so much hope to hear from you. Have a great day.
In the eyes of HR there are serious implications in omitting important information. Your name is a high priority detail to be included on every application. Throughout the hiring process everything hinges on your name...even your social security number. When this very simple detail is not accurately stated on the application, and thereby any other official document that gets generated once a job offer is made, HR has the responsibility of considering why the applicant was not forthcoming. On the surface, omission will almost always cause conclusion of dishonesty. HR has the option of dismissing a new hire based on omission alone. More than many things, a company does not want dishonest employees. If HR feels the omission should be further investigated in efforts of keeping the new hire, chances are the investigation yielded negative information--hence, the omission.
You will find that many well-structured companies have zero tolerance for false or omitted information. Always be honest and forthcoming in information required of you when applying for work. But always remember to give information when and where appropriate.
It seems that you have a issue, with the HR Dept. I never heard of a major logistic corporation.
Officially firing an employee, for not putting your last name on a job application?
Something's very wrong! Are you a member active member, of local union? If yes, you need
to speak with a union rep! ASAP!
When Fed/Ex does a background check they would've found that when they did the background check so they knew what it was before they hired you or they would not of hired you I know I used to work there it's just an excuse to get rid of you because they found somebody else it was probably better qualified for the job or things are slowing down and it was time to eliminate people to keep cost down so management gets their pay raises and their bonuses every month like they want that's why they cut hours back same reason
I was a fedx delivery Driver for 5 years. I worked for a independent contractor . This is how Fedx the company gets away with not paying for medical or dental. I was paid a whole $1.20 a stop, that's even if it was for example one case of wine or 20 cases of wine you still only get $1.20 for that stop! You have to load your own truck and then wait around to find one package that one of the package handlers put on the wrong pallet! We don't get paid for either. There attitude is FU find it! The driver has to look around the whole terminal to find one stinking package or they don't let you leave! Completely ridiculous. It's FU, you don't like it, leave! Fedx doesn't give a rats ass about the drivers! Worst company I ever worked for! Everyone should ban this company, use UPS they get paid 4 times as much and they are treated much better probably because they are Union.
Were you on probation? If not, then what are the full circumstances behind this termination. I am a former President of AFSCME Local 1134. If you were a probationary employee there are still National Labor laws that could come into play here. Unless your employment is
at will. If so, you have no recourse unless you can prove malicious intent on the part of Fedex. Sorry for your trauma.
Hi I'm Calvin Jackson March 2003 I was fired for taking approved personal time of 4hrs in which my supervisor approved. We were formally watkins motor lines at the time being bought out by FedEx. I myself was always on time but that day I was called to the office and confronted by three of my supervisors and was told I should have used common sense and not have taken off and was suspended for two days. By the time I walked in the door at they called me and told me I was fired. I came in and worked four ours and the other four hours was my approved personal time in which I was selling my home and looking a new place for my family. FedEx is ruthless and heartless and have no concern for veterans. May God have mercy on them. FedEx smyrna,ga. Formally watkins motor lines. Also won my unemployment in which they tried to denied because I had a copy of my approved personal time request chit.
wow i was as well they played me they waited till i was on vacation in which i never got a vaction in 3 yeras anyway never missed one day of work never took not one sick days i had no blemishes on my record ,i had one situation with a delivery resuraunt stop in which they lied on me saying i refuse to deliver packages threw back door i explained was not able to pull my truck into the lot i drove the t1000 style and the place of busness was off a mager city street so i had to take them threw the front door that turned into some mess instead of listning to my side or maybe doing a suspention having us sit down and discuss the matter the played me three weeks later while on vaction to do perminate layoff think fed x as a whole needs to be investigated on how the run there organitaion we had been working like slaves for 6 months staight no time off over laoded on packages with no extra compensation
Some places do a preliminary background check. I'm guessing, based on previous experience, that he signed his legal name to his paycheck and they then ran a background check on his full name. After I married, payroll called me because I signed my married name on my check. HR hadn't forwarded the paperwork to them yet, so they were concerned someone else had cashed my check. They then called HR, who finally sent the paperwork down. (I worked in Accounting, so they came to me first.)
That's absurd! I hope there was a good reason why you omitted your secund last name. If all your identification has it on it, then maybe you should've used it. But still that's no reason for them to fire you. You could've put it on the application then after a month or so changed it. I say talk to a labor lawyer and see what they say. You may be able to sue them.
Ok I know fed ex is mostly union in most states here is the thing they can't fire you for not putting a second last name on the file. unless it came back on a background check totally to a different person. see I work security for a living we seen people get picked up by the police all the time for having similar names. Hell l I don't put my middle name on any forms for my own security but my social security number and finger prints match up every time it sounds like a weak excuse to fire someone I think there is more to the story then we are getting told .
Really? Yes, you can be fired if you don't use you LEGAL NAME. That is First, middle or middle initial (if applicable) and FULL last name.
Let me posit this scenario...I apply for a job using my maiden name only...a background check on that name comes back clean, however, I sign my paycheck with my legal name, which is my married name (now my legal name), the company sees a different name used as the signatory, what do you think the company does? I'm betting they run a new background check on name used to sign the check to verify it wasn't cashed fraudulently. Oh, they now find out I'm Catwoman! Yes, they are going to escort me right out the door.
FYI Payroll companies like ADP, etc. periodically audit their information.
sigh Apparently men think women ♡♡♡magically♡♡♡ always had their husband's last name.
I have never had any trouble with any of my paperwork leaving out my middle name or even a letter of my name and I have done government work With United States marshals and private agencies in corrections officer field I haven't had one once of trouble with back ground checks and also a licensed investigator in the state of Texas also a chl holder when it comes down to some people they to pick and chose what they want to enforce in the private business world but until you go though federal case law and understand what a straw man is unless Human Resources want to start honoring birth certificate as legal form of i.d again this matter is closed it's questionable at best
John, You don't always need to include a middle name or initial, but if you use a last name that isn't your legal name (accepting there may be typos, but not a completely different name.) you can be fired because your background check won't match. Also, the original poster said, in a later response, that his SS# didn't match his name. You should use the name on your SS card. I can't expect a company to not be suspicious if I apply under Dee Smith and it's not my real name, but a nickname and my maiden name. It won't match my legal information. If I typed Deens instead of Deena, they may overlook that as it isn't deceptive, but obviously a typo. If it was handwritten and it looked like Deeno, instead of Deena to the person processing my paperwork, they would look at the original paperwork and realize that.
Apples and oranges to omitting your second last name that and having an incorrect SS#.
Yes yeah FedEx fired me for something indifferent. But the fedex I was working in the delta was into this/that forthright with the rules and such. But don't worry go find another job and supplements to paycheck. I worked at FedEx for a year or two and got lucky to get my degree almost paid forward. I feel your pain about those regulations and such.
To all with similar comments......at will or right to work states can fire you for ANY reason. I was fired and denied unemployment for wearing flip flops & 2 other reasons which were both determined to not be reasons for denying unemployment by a judge. The flip flops that I wore 3 times because my foot was swollen and would not go in my shoe. That is 3 times in 4 years.
What an injustice! We have to be perfect for the rich! Our nations hoop was broken even more so after this Presidential election. Did your job application have a special area to ask you if you had a second last name? I personally would file a discrimination law suit for such an assinine firing! Keep in touch...steve
If you signed your application that everything on the application was true, and you omitted information, you lied. Companies are not required to ask you why or give you the benefit of the doubt. They can and do assume that one lie, even a lie of omission, shows a proclivity for dishonesty. Live, learn, and move forward.
I was starting to become late and I told them why, because I came home to my fiancé dead and I have ptsd . It was so hard for me to tell them that and they said those are personal problems, we are running a business. I was trying so hard to be on time at 3:15am but my nightmares were so horrible i had to have at least 30 min to wake up . I start UPS next week and they are definitely friendlier and I heard at my FedEx in Ohio that they took money from people's checks also, FedEx doesn't do anything correct and only care about their own earnings and their business.
I think there maybe more to this than just forgetting your last name on an application. Maybe the background check turned up something with your other name. We only hear your side of the argument, and obviously you're upset, but there is probably another reason behind the termination. All applications state that if you lie or omit information it can be grounds for termination. This can be a learning opportunity for you. Next time put your full name on the application. Good luck.
Wow Steve Ohluk!! whatever happened to kindness and compassion with a little optimism Sir ? ?!! What u say may surely be true but...It's how u word it ...Guy just lost his job !My God..he's just venting!!..And to the
FedEx sucksperson...I feel your pain but try to relax , refocus & most importantly ...Holler at the BIG GUY upstairs. ..stay positive, trust and believe and HE will work it out. ..my prayers are with you. .peace and blessings! !!
Omg Richard Stanley! ! Bless ur little heart! !....for your info Kind Sir ,let me clearly define what I meant by
Holler(I'm sure everyone else understood ) Holler = Talk to or speak with or communicate or express yourself to.....So ,Mr Stanley I hope u were only joking but if not ...there's your understanding. ......and as I stated earlier to Mr
Fed Ex Sucksperson and others ...
Holla@The Big Guy ....
at Him......Always Holler at Him !!!! ....But please,for Mr Richard Stanley's sake,Whatever you do ,neverHoller" (Yell, scream or raise your voice )@Him!!!!!Lol..............Wow
Sorry. FEDEX is not perfect, but I seriously doubt that they fired you for the reason you stated here. Besides that who has a
second last name? What was your father's legal surname? That would also be YOUR surname - what you call a
last name - the name associated with your legal records and the name searched for in a Background Check. Looks pretty fishy to me.
WOW! Did you inherit the stupidity gene with your last name? My father's legal surname WAS MY MAIDEN NAME. I'm married, it is no longer my LEGAL NAME, I CHANGED IT, LIKE MANY WOMEN OFTEN DO. Although some hyphenate their name.
GASP...Some couples BOTH change their name using the hyphenated last name. Their children are often given the new hyphenated last name.
Giovanni: I am sorry you lost your job. I too have a maiden and married last name which I retained. I always supply that to the parties asking for that information. Some times they have dropped my married name for my maiden name without any discussion. It all depends on who is typing the information into the computer or what ever they do. This country is in a state of alert all the time as we all probably are. Too many terrible things have happened to us. Maintaining safety is a majority priority through written and verbal communication. It isn't that you did anything wrong. It is that identifying each of us if needed is very important to those who are in charge of keeping us safe. By way of explanation, I was born in this country many years ago. My father fought in WWll, he was also in the calvery. I traveled nationally for a very large company. I was cleared by the FBI to do that as I had to fly into other small countries. I have been bonded for most of my life. I hold a state license to practice. It is renewed every 2 years. I am finger printed each time a take a new assignment. I also must have a background check each time. But still after all of that I have to answer all the questions and dot all i's. I must remain tolerant altho at times I can become frustrated with questions, airport lines and checks and then I remind myself that no one knows me and they need to know who I am. It is not personal. At Fed Ex they are probably are mandated to get all the proper information as required by goverment. Delivering packages is a BIG DEAL. It is international Business. So they have to be very careful.Years ago you being fired for this probably wouldn't have happened over a ommission of a maiden name. You and I know things are differant now. We have all kinds of people doing very foolish things over what they ate for lunch. So that leaves the rest of us to do the right thing. Get yourself another job, continue to work hard and chalk this up to good old experience. This was just a little learning bump in the road. I know you needed your job just like I do so now you can move forward. Of course I don't have all the facts. You do. Use those facts to make you more aware and take nothing for granted. Can we say Be Strict with your information give what you need to give to
those who need that information. Sincerely, Yolanda
Yolanda, He's male...so not a maiden name I'm guessing a hyphenated name.
You are so right about the maiden name though. I initially hyphenated my maiden name with my married name...until I saw how they abbreviated it on my drivers license. SHUDDER It was combined into...well...not a very nice word. I promptly legally changed my last name to my married name only. Some forms do ask if you ever used a different name or if you have a preferred name. I always fill in my maiden name and write preferred next to it as well.
This is a typical case of cultural differences that should have been remedied through knowledge of law. Legally, they can do this because it can be seen as fraud. Latinos do this all the time in the US and only use their mother's maiden name when their father's name is required. Culture can be brought in, but know when to adjust to the legal culture. An entire society made up of multiple cultures will not change for one single group unless necessary.
People, you are forgetting the real problem here. His social security number was fake. It didn't match whatever name he was using. It may not be politically correct to say, but many illegal aliens in this country obtain fake identity cards all the time. It's a BIG red flag if the social security number is suspect.
Most companies today have direct access to any and all information about you (probably even what color underwear you buy). When they checked up on you they probably saw that you use two last names. By not noting that on your application, they could have assumed that you use an alias which could mean you are hiding something. You have to be very transparent when filling out apps today. Now this is just one reason I can think of, but they are free to let you go with no explanation. Sorry this happened to you, but try UPS. It seems they are always hiring (and indicate both last names you use or have used).
Employers are not required to be nice. Makes me crazy how people trust employers and how employers demand unswerving loyalty but won't necessarily repay it. This is why I tell people to never get too comfortable on a job and to constantly improve their skill sets so they are more and more marketable. This way they land on their feet. It's dog eat dog - which is why we should have unions to protect workers.
You need to go to the main office or call HR and see about what you have to do to get what they call
GFT- GET FAIR TREATMENT. There are 3 people that will help decide if you can go back to work
I know this because I worked for Fed Ex for 9 yrs. Don't Give Up! Good Luck! You don't need a lawyer!
Is this site legit, or BS? I have seen a lot of questions from a lot of people. None of which seem reasonable. I went years with no job and no help, but pulled through. What am I missing. This site seems to be a release for people mad, and then they are mad at the person posting.
How does that help?
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It could end up being an identity crisis if they don't know who you really are alway be sure to out down full legal given names same goes if you get pulled over give a different name and you could have the same trouble and same concept i think it's falsifying a document the way they see it
Fedex is a bully. Once they can use you as a puppet they will find that way to get rid of you. Very few managers will back you. Most of them suit are morons. The few that are not move on to other 500 fortune companies. Dont be fooled...all they are and thrive on is what makes them look good on paper.
I agree with you. I'm learning disability and they said going in they were willing to work with me but I had to jump through so many Hoops with HR but when it came down to it they treated me like everyone else and want one give me the training that I needed. HR has so many Hoops for you to jump through I don't think they really want to deal with disabilities they just do not want to get sued. I bought them everything they ask for and they still never gave me the special training I was promised. I wouldn't recommend working at FedEx office.